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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
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Subject: Re: Questions not in W95 FAQ
Date: 3 Sep 1997 16:51:49 GMT
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In article <dZXSa+qQ61lp@axp1>, <mayhew@wku.edu> wrote:
: I've been using Kermit 3.14 under Win95 for one simple reason: The
: entire screen is given over to text in an 80-col VT320 display, unless
: I choose myself to put the DOS-session into a window.
:
K95 can run in a full-screen session also. Use Alt-Enter to toggle between
fullscreen and a window (as you know).
: It's primary disadvantage, for my purposes, is that it doesn't use the
: TCP/IP stack in Win95.
:
Some other obvious ones include:
. Can't access long filenames.
. Can't use TAPI or gain possession of TAPI devices.
. Can't use Winmodems, etc.
On the other hand, it does offer several emulations (Tektronix, Sixel, DG463,
DG470, etc) that K95 does not offer (although we expect to add at least some
of these in the future).
: After reading the K95 FAQ, I have three questions about whether some
: specific advantages of Kermit 3 survive in K95:
:
: 1. As a console-mode app, is K95 essentially indistinguishable from
: Kermit 3.14 run full-screen? For example, I'm using the default text
: mode for Kermit 3.14 and don't want to discover that it has been
: replaced by a graphics mode font-based emulation that only approximates
: the very readable text-mode text supplied in Kermit and by no GUI-based
: windows app that I've seen.
:
It is a console mode application, not a simulated GUI font-based text mode.
It does indeed use the PC's code page and not any GUI fonts. (This applies
to Windows 95, not necessarily to Windows NT).
: 2. As a console-mode app, is K95 "windowable" for the purpose of cutting
: text from the screen for pasting into a text-mode dos app?
:
Yes (provided you take the appropriate measures listed in the documentation
to work around Windows bugs regarding pasting into console windows, and you
use the built-in K95 mouse functions).
: 3. When K95 goes "wholly" GUI, will console mode still be available,
: and, if so, will the answers to 1 and 2 change?
:
Our plan is to keep a wholly console version available as long as we possibly
can manage it. A surprising number of people have asked us to do this, and
we intend to do it until or unless the demand disappears or Microsoft makes
it completely impossible (as they have, for example, in Windows CE).
Meanwhile the GUI version is coming along. It is important for many reasons
besides the point-and-click user interface (which I suspect heavy users will
tire of quickly):
. Avoidance of countless bugs and restrictions in CONAGENT.EXE.
. Ability to use "native" Windows facilities that are currently denied us.
. Ability to use Unicode fonts in Windows 95.
. Ability to change font size or window dimensions by dragging.
. etc etc...
Of course, the command language will remain available as an option for
"power users".
- Frank